Cheers.

I see your point to some degree, however your logic is flawed. A few times in your statements you use duality as logic (“Given [x], this can only be [y].”) which is unfortunately a philosophical mistake.

I appreciate your comment, but you are flat out wrong in your inferring that a “heterosexual pride” t-shirt can only be a statement in opposition to those who are gay. It’s not anti-gay. It’s simply stating I like being hetero. Similarly, the “pro-choice” movement is not, by necessity, anti-abortion. It’s desire is simply to give the woman the right to choose. This claim is not a philosophical duality, as you have presented.

Thus, my humor and statement with a “heterosexual pride” statement does not mean I’m anti-homosexual. In fact, it says nothing about homosexuality at all. It implicitly states only that I am happy to be and support heterosexuality. The lack of the statement about something doesn’t mean the individual is “anti” that thing.

Anyway, it’s all in the name of “equality” really. ;) If one side can have t-shirts, so can the other. When someone gets upset about having a supportive statement about an opposing lifestyle, it really does create a conundrum doesn’t it? Funny how that last sentence works both ways.

I don’t think you’re homophobic.

As has been pointed out, ‘gay pride’ is a response to homophobia in its many forms, specifically those that vilify and aggressively discriminate.

To say ‘I’m proud of being heterosexual’ means what exactly?

You infer some annoyance and a lack of happiness with what you believe ‘gay pride’ has come to mean, which displays a level of personal antipathy and frustration. This informs me more of what you think ‘hetero pride’ is meant to be – a counter balance to ‘gay pride’.

The personal *is* political and you cannot deny that a ‘hetero pride’ t-shirt is meant to counter ‘gay pride’.

Given the level of structural discrimination against heterosexuals is effectively nil, this can only be a personal comment meant to be directed towards those who are gay and a rallying call to those who are not.

Gay pride is a statement against the discrimination directed towards those who are gay (eg. the US military and others, failing to allow gay people to marry). Hetero pride can be nothing BUT a counter to gay pride and serves no purpose other than that as it counters no other form of structural or institutional discrimination. Even at a cultural level, there is no element of the dominant cultures which discriminates against heterosexuals.

I’m straight, but I don’t care whether people wear ‘gay pride’ t-shirts. It marks them out for abuse far more than wearing a ‘hetero pride’ t-shirt would – how many people are physically abuse, seriously injured, disfigured or murdered for being hetero? It answers itself really.

“quietly unashamed heterosexual”
“unashamed heterosexual”
“proud taco fan”
“I plant seeds where they can grow”

for various levels of outspokenness ;)

I am proud to be heterosexual, that does not mean that I hate homosexual people, it does not mean that I wish ill upon them, nor does it mean I am a bad person. That is what I think the whole point of Nate’s purpose is here, to prove that point.

We were born with the right to choose and think for ourselves. We live in a great nation that lets people practice what they want to and live their lives as they chose. And I wish people would understand that.

And I agree…do not compare being black to being gay. The only thing it has in common is they are both discriminated against (but then so is every demography, religions,lifestyles, socioeconomic class, etc) but people in a certain race popped out of the womb that way.

I love this whole Hetero Pride thing :) I wish more people would hop on the bandwagon.