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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/comment-page-1/#comment-91635</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same thing happened to me and I feel it is down right theft.  As one person pointed out not only did they steal from me they stole from the person that paid me the commission for selling their product.  They were just holding it in an account for me.  They earned their commission for me selling the product through them.  To me it would be like paypal taking my money after a selling a product on ebay.  They were just the medium that allowed the exchange to take place and they charged a fee already for that to happen.  Now as my money sits there waiting for me to collect much like a bank account.  I don&#039;t think there are any accounting records that need to take place cause basically everyone has already been paid.  For instance product is $100 dollars.  Affiliate pays me 50% for sale so he makes 50 and I make 50 and then CB charges fee for that transaction.  So everyone makes money all around and thats a good thing.  Now not only do they want their fee they want my money as well of my commission as well.  Not only did they do that but they never notified me they were in fact taking any money.  Electronic THEFT at its finest.  I think a good follow up article would be to point people to other networks that offer the same thing.  Another suggestion is for someone to just start another clickbank without the theft.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same thing happened to me and I feel it is down right theft.  As one person pointed out not only did they steal from me they stole from the person that paid me the commission for selling their product.  They were just holding it in an account for me.  They earned their commission for me selling the product through them.  To me it would be like paypal taking my money after a selling a product on ebay.  They were just the medium that allowed the exchange to take place and they charged a fee already for that to happen.  Now as my money sits there waiting for me to collect much like a bank account.  I don&#8217;t think there are any accounting records that need to take place cause basically everyone has already been paid.  For instance product is $100 dollars.  Affiliate pays me 50% for sale so he makes 50 and I make 50 and then CB charges fee for that transaction.  So everyone makes money all around and thats a good thing.  Now not only do they want their fee they want my money as well of my commission as well.  Not only did they do that but they never notified me they were in fact taking any money.  Electronic THEFT at its finest.  I think a good follow up article would be to point people to other networks that offer the same thing.  Another suggestion is for someone to just start another clickbank without the theft.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/comment-page-1/#comment-91626</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my story...its pretty similar.
I am a small affiliate with Clickbank.  I bought a couple of products for myself as an affiliate with a view to using and promoting them.  As a result I got 2 credits on my account totaling $184.10.  2 sales...its not as if I am abusing the system and the sellers told me I could use my aff link!
However I have not been paid any $.  I complained yesterday and they are now finally going to send me a check for $75.45 (my balance is $84.11 with 8.66 being held back for returns) which means that their dormancy fees come to $99.99 that’s 54.3%! I get they are in business and there are fees but that is ludicrous.

Note: they NEVER contacted me at all.  It was only when I logged in and started digging did I realize what was happening.  What a great system that is for them.  I emailed them and they just said we have policies and you agreed to them.  Yet you&#039;d think that there would be a notification of some kind about the charge. I complained to the FTC and the AG in my state but I worry that they will black list me.

BTW they have changed the dormancy fee for +365 days to $50.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my story&#8230;its pretty similar.<br />
I am a small affiliate with Clickbank.  I bought a couple of products for myself as an affiliate with a view to using and promoting them.  As a result I got 2 credits on my account totaling $184.10.  2 sales&#8230;its not as if I am abusing the system and the sellers told me I could use my aff link!<br />
However I have not been paid any $.  I complained yesterday and they are now finally going to send me a check for $75.45 (my balance is $84.11 with 8.66 being held back for returns) which means that their dormancy fees come to $99.99 that’s 54.3%! I get they are in business and there are fees but that is ludicrous.</p>
<p>Note: they NEVER contacted me at all.  It was only when I logged in and started digging did I realize what was happening.  What a great system that is for them.  I emailed them and they just said we have policies and you agreed to them.  Yet you&#8217;d think that there would be a notification of some kind about the charge. I complained to the FTC and the AG in my state but I worry that they will black list me.</p>
<p>BTW they have changed the dormancy fee for +365 days to $50.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Hardin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Hardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure where you guys are from but i am from the United States in the good old state of Georgia. I made a heck of an income from them but for some odd reason I did not meet there CDR. Then  after about 6 months of me trying to get paid I  all of a sudden logged in and my account was empty. Not even what I had left nothing not a penny. I think I was down to a couple hundred.

Well here in Georgia TOS means nothing. I can sign into any contract I want. Yet it means nothing. They still have to abide by the law no matter what they sneak in or try to say. What they did was not only Steal from me but also stole from the vendor as well. As they took money out to pay me from his account yet never did so. So they stole money from 2 different people.

So not sure what country you guys are from but here in the USofA  theft is illegal. It is kinda like signing a contract that they can have my first born in terms of they pay me for my sales. That contract would not hold up in court and neither would this ridiculous pyramid scheme they have now.

the point of the matter is this. Most people who has been flambuzled by CB are usually the lower end of the scale and do not have a lot of money and they did not lose that much money. So most people write it off. No one has actually really went after them in the court of law before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure where you guys are from but i am from the United States in the good old state of Georgia. I made a heck of an income from them but for some odd reason I did not meet there CDR. Then  after about 6 months of me trying to get paid I  all of a sudden logged in and my account was empty. Not even what I had left nothing not a penny. I think I was down to a couple hundred.</p>
<p>Well here in Georgia TOS means nothing. I can sign into any contract I want. Yet it means nothing. They still have to abide by the law no matter what they sneak in or try to say. What they did was not only Steal from me but also stole from the vendor as well. As they took money out to pay me from his account yet never did so. So they stole money from 2 different people.</p>
<p>So not sure what country you guys are from but here in the USofA  theft is illegal. It is kinda like signing a contract that they can have my first born in terms of they pay me for my sales. That contract would not hold up in court and neither would this ridiculous pyramid scheme they have now.</p>
<p>the point of the matter is this. Most people who has been flambuzled by CB are usually the lower end of the scale and do not have a lot of money and they did not lose that much money. So most people write it off. No one has actually really went after them in the court of law before.</p>
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		<title>By: John Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They took my money too.  I made over $50 from a sales.  I could not get the money out because they have a requirement that you must have sales where buyers pay with different cards.  Since I had only one buyer who paid with one credit card, I could not get my money out.  I was not happy with that because I did some advertisement to generate the sales and I figured that what I earned was mine.  Months later they took all of my money because my account was dormant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They took my money too.  I made over $50 from a sales.  I could not get the money out because they have a requirement that you must have sales where buyers pay with different cards.  Since I had only one buyer who paid with one credit card, I could not get my money out.  I was not happy with that because I did some advertisement to generate the sales and I figured that what I earned was mine.  Months later they took all of my money because my account was dormant.</p>
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		<title>By: staglo</title>
		<link>http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/comment-page-1/#comment-90464</link>
		<dc:creator>staglo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 11:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find them disturbing and to me is PURE FRAUD.
I have stopped promoting thier products, cos I hate cheating.
Lets face you can receive 0.01 via paypal , so if you made that sale then get paid.
And so , if you buy a product throgh your link, did it ever register it might be your company expenses?
Never promote thier products its a waste of time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find them disturbing and to me is PURE FRAUD.<br />
I have stopped promoting thier products, cos I hate cheating.<br />
Lets face you can receive 0.01 via paypal , so if you made that sale then get paid.<br />
And so , if you buy a product throgh your link, did it ever register it might be your company expenses?<br />
Never promote thier products its a waste of time</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice</title>
		<link>http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/comment-page-1/#comment-90398</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 04:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my understanding that the policy was introduced to prevent people from buying products through their own links and collecting commissions without really selling anything as an affiliate.

It might have been better to just prevent affiliates from buying through their own link which has always struck me as a rather stupid policy.

CDR is a thorn in the side of more affiliates than you might think, but once you&#039;re past it you don&#039;t have to worry about it again.

However, those who are working with Clickbank and struggling with CDR but still wishing to continue might be interested in one solution that can be very effective in getting you the required 5 credit card purchases.

You can read it online here
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5168605/Clickbank-For-Newbies

Hope this will help some people rather than make them just give up, because Clickbank can be pretty lucrative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is my understanding that the policy was introduced to prevent people from buying products through their own links and collecting commissions without really selling anything as an affiliate.</p>
<p>It might have been better to just prevent affiliates from buying through their own link which has always struck me as a rather stupid policy.</p>
<p>CDR is a thorn in the side of more affiliates than you might think, but once you&#8217;re past it you don&#8217;t have to worry about it again.</p>
<p>However, those who are working with Clickbank and struggling with CDR but still wishing to continue might be interested in one solution that can be very effective in getting you the required 5 credit card purchases.</p>
<p>You can read it online here<br />
<a href="http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5168605/Clickbank-For-Newbies" rel="nofollow">http://www.docstoc.com/docs/5168605/Clickbank-For-Newbies</a></p>
<p>Hope this will help some people rather than make them just give up, because Clickbank can be pretty lucrative.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Simister</title>
		<link>http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/comment-page-1/#comment-90058</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Simister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was caught by this stupid Clickbank rule and immediately closed my account.

Having been caught I refuse to waste my time selling any Clickbank products and I have been very successful in some of the bigger Internet launches.

Their loss but I recommend that anyone wanting to sell through affiliates avoids Clickbank. Why waste your time if you won&#039;t get paid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was caught by this stupid Clickbank rule and immediately closed my account.</p>
<p>Having been caught I refuse to waste my time selling any Clickbank products and I have been very successful in some of the bigger Internet launches.</p>
<p>Their loss but I recommend that anyone wanting to sell through affiliates avoids Clickbank. Why waste your time if you won&#8217;t get paid?</p>
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		<title>By: raj</title>
		<link>http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/comment-page-1/#comment-90056</link>
		<dc:creator>raj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That dormant account thing is just ridiculous..Are we a slave to keep earning you money? Mr. clickbank.. and if not you take money from our account? Idk how people are still using clickbank even after they openly taking money from people&#039;s accounts. Not only people are getting incredibly ridiculous, i think big companies are getting greedier by the day. The only way to stop this f*ckers is to stop accepting MONEY as payment. We should go back to &quot;barter system&quot; and without taxes. 

People from now on if anyone gives you money for your service or product, refuse to accept it. THIS WILL BRING THEM DOWN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That dormant account thing is just ridiculous..Are we a slave to keep earning you money? Mr. clickbank.. and if not you take money from our account? Idk how people are still using clickbank even after they openly taking money from people&#8217;s accounts. Not only people are getting incredibly ridiculous, i think big companies are getting greedier by the day. The only way to stop this f*ckers is to stop accepting MONEY as payment. We should go back to &#8220;barter system&#8221; and without taxes. </p>
<p>People from now on if anyone gives you money for your service or product, refuse to accept it. THIS WILL BRING THEM DOWN!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the whole charging accounts. It&#039;s just retarded.

One thing that annoys me is the holding of money. I understand that they need to hold 10% in case of refunds. I get that. the problem is that when they release that 10% into a check, they take an additional 10% of the new total. That means you technically can never get all your money out of the account. There&#039;s always going to be 10% taken and there will be a point where there is some left in the account.

Now since they created a way of doing things that makes it impossible for you to get all the money out, I&#039;m pretty sure that is illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the whole charging accounts. It&#8217;s just retarded.</p>
<p>One thing that annoys me is the holding of money. I understand that they need to hold 10% in case of refunds. I get that. the problem is that when they release that 10% into a check, they take an additional 10% of the new total. That means you technically can never get all your money out of the account. There&#8217;s always going to be 10% taken and there will be a point where there is some left in the account.</p>
<p>Now since they created a way of doing things that makes it impossible for you to get all the money out, I&#8217;m pretty sure that is illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish there was a lawsuit. I just don&#039;t think there could be because of the agreement we agree to when we start promoting their products. When we agree, there&#039;s not much we can say about it unless it&#039;s illegal. *shrug*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish there was a lawsuit. I just don&#8217;t think there could be because of the agreement we agree to when we start promoting their products. When we agree, there&#8217;s not much we can say about it unless it&#8217;s illegal. *shrug*</p>
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