Comments on: Clickbank, Stop Stealing My Money! http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/ community, entrepreneurship and business strategy Sun, 08 Jan 2012 02:04:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Williamhttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91874 William Wed, 16 Feb 2011 03:43:55 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91874 Clickbank took much of my commissions before I reached the threshold. Now I am at -$39.95... Sucks. Clickbank took much of my commissions before I reached the threshold. Now I am at -$39.95… Sucks.

]]> By: Ronniehttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91837 Ronnie Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:48:55 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91837 Chris, your statement was by far interesting. Until, you mentioned two affiliate networks that had no place in this discussion to begin with. I am an affiliate of both Clickbank and Commission Junction. To me, it sounds as though you are an employ of Clickbank and you are here to hold or stop any negativity of the business, so by doing this you attempted to bring down other larger affiliate companies in the process. Fatal mistake in trying to uplift a company, but in doing this you decided to bring down two companies in the process. Oh, by the way, nothing is ever truly black and white, even with trustworthy business such as Clickbank. Just my $0.02 Ronnie Chris, your statement was by far interesting. Until, you mentioned two affiliate networks that had no place in this discussion to begin with.
I am an affiliate of both Clickbank and Commission Junction. To me, it sounds as though you are an employ of Clickbank and you are here to hold or stop any negativity of the business, so by doing this you attempted to bring down other larger affiliate companies in the process.
Fatal mistake in trying to uplift a company, but in doing this you decided to bring down two companies in the process. Oh, by the way, nothing is ever truly black and white, even with trustworthy business such as Clickbank. Just my $0.02
Ronnie

]]> By: Chris Rempelhttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91817 Chris Rempel Mon, 03 Jan 2011 22:04:29 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91817 Clickbank has always been pretty archaic in comparison to the other networks, but the system-wide promotional availability (you can promote anything on the whole network the moment you sign up) makes it quite powerful for fast-moving affiliates. That's a big plus, but it's counter-weighted by quite a few negatives, as well. The bottom line is it's not the best affiliate network, and good offers that don't violate your ethical boundaries are (as always) hard to find - but they're not crooks. It's just that their contract is rather self-serving. So in my opinion this isn't a matter of "class action"... it's a matter of actually reading the user agreement and taking it - or leaving it. Pure and simple. Class actions are applicable to things like click-fraud (re: Adwords) and literally withholding commissions (re: CJ), both of which did result in class action suits and then were either settled or went to court. So if Clickbank was either unfairly withholding commissions, hiding sales or otherwise doing shady stuff OUTSIDE of their fully-disclosed TOS/EULA/Contract - THEN it would make sense to talk about going legal. But to the best of my knowledge - they're not doing anything that they haven't disclosed clearly to begin with. So it's a matter of "take it or leave it". In my opinion, the pros outweigh the cons. Just my $0.02 -Chris Clickbank has always been pretty archaic in comparison to the other networks, but the system-wide promotional availability (you can promote anything on the whole network the moment you sign up) makes it quite powerful for fast-moving affiliates.

That’s a big plus, but it’s counter-weighted by quite a few negatives, as well.

The bottom line is it’s not the best affiliate network, and good offers that don’t violate your ethical boundaries are (as always) hard to find – but they’re not crooks.

It’s just that their contract is rather self-serving.

So in my opinion this isn’t a matter of “class action”… it’s a matter of actually reading the user agreement and taking it – or leaving it.

Pure and simple.

Class actions are applicable to things like click-fraud (re: Adwords) and literally withholding commissions (re: CJ), both of which did result in class action suits and then were either settled or went to court.

So if Clickbank was either unfairly withholding commissions, hiding sales or otherwise doing shady stuff OUTSIDE of their fully-disclosed TOS/EULA/Contract – THEN it would make sense to talk about going legal.

But to the best of my knowledge – they’re not doing anything that they haven’t disclosed clearly to begin with.

So it’s a matter of “take it or leave it”.

In my opinion, the pros outweigh the cons.

Just my $0.02

-Chris

]]> By: Brixterhttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91791 Brixter Wed, 08 Dec 2010 02:16:23 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91791 I agree, it's kind of stupid to charge for dormant accounts. I mean what if I let my account dormant for years and years to come, what would be the figures then? A thousand bucks? I think I would stay away from them. Thanks for the info! I agree, it’s kind of stupid to charge for dormant accounts. I mean what if I let my account dormant for years and years to come, what would be the figures then? A thousand bucks? I think I would stay away from them.

Thanks for the info!

]]> By: Wallyhttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91760 Wally Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:10:54 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91760 I got my money from Clickbank. I wrote them and asked why they were ripping me off, and basically said "send me my money now". They sent me a check and told me that after I got the check I could close my account. So, it seems like the easiest fix is to make money, tell them you want it or else and they send you a check. Wouldn't it be easier if they just sent the check in the first place? Ridiculous! w I got my money from Clickbank. I wrote them and asked why they were ripping me off, and basically said “send me my money now”. They sent me a check and told me that after I got the check I could close my account.

So, it seems like the easiest fix is to make money, tell them you want it or else and they send you a check.

Wouldn’t it be easier if they just sent the check in the first place? Ridiculous!

w

]]> By: natehttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91746 nate Thu, 28 Oct 2010 18:16:36 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91746 Shirly, First and foremost, I wouldn't suggest paying for just about anything when it comes to learning how to make money online. 99.9% of the products out there which charge you are just taking your money and not actually teaching you anything of significant value. You've now done that once, so I'd learn from that mistake and not do it again in the future. If you want to make money, stop spending it. :) Second, what you need to do is <a href="http://www.clickbank.com/contact_us.html" rel="nofollow">contact Clickbank</a> themselves first. Tell them that you want to cancel a subscription. They should be able to help you out with that. I've paid for something on clickbank as a test before and had no problem canceling the subscription through their interface once I was told how to do it. I hope this helps. Cheers. Shirly,

First and foremost, I wouldn’t suggest paying for just about anything when it comes to learning how to make money online. 99.9% of the products out there which charge you are just taking your money and not actually teaching you anything of significant value. You’ve now done that once, so I’d learn from that mistake and not do it again in the future. If you want to make money, stop spending it. :)

Second, what you need to do is contact Clickbank themselves first. Tell them that you want to cancel a subscription. They should be able to help you out with that. I’ve paid for something on clickbank as a test before and had no problem canceling the subscription through their interface once I was told how to do it.

I hope this helps.

Cheers.

]]> By: shirleyhttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91738 shirley Sat, 23 Oct 2010 02:40:35 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91738 hi. could you help me? recently, i got interested in making money online. i wanted to earn money by accepting data entry or blogging jobs. 2 weeks ago, i arrived at this particular site (realwritingjobs) where they offered a trial of their service for 7 days. they will charge me $4 and the remaining $77 will be charged automatically from my credit card after a week. my problem is, perhaps i got too excited of jumping at the opportunity that i failed to understand what i was signing. i paid the $4 initial payment promo and today, i received a message from clickbank informing that they are having problem processing my order because it could be that my credit card has no sufficient fund, which is true. i've already exceeded my credit limit. frankly, i'm no longer interested in subscribing to the service of realwritingjobs.com. i find it too complicated. i don't know what to do because by monday i am going to settle my obligations. this will mean that my credit card will have sufficient fund again. clikbank then can charge $77 from my account. unfortunately, i don't know where to send my concerns. how can i stop clickbank from collecting money from my account? should i contact my bank and order them to stop clickbank from getting my money? is this a possible means? i have no account in clickbank. when i paid for the trial promo of realwritingjobs i just paid by filling out the form online. thank you. hi.

could you help me? recently, i got interested in making money online. i wanted to earn money by accepting data entry or blogging jobs. 2 weeks ago, i arrived at this particular site (realwritingjobs) where they offered a trial of their service for 7 days. they will charge me $4 and the remaining $77 will be charged automatically from my credit card after a week. my problem is, perhaps i got too excited of jumping at the opportunity that i failed to understand what i was signing. i paid the $4 initial payment promo and today, i received a message from clickbank informing that they are having problem processing my order because it could be that my credit card has no sufficient fund, which is true. i’ve already exceeded my credit limit. frankly, i’m no longer interested in subscribing to the service of realwritingjobs.com. i find it too complicated. i don’t know what to do because by monday i am going to settle my obligations. this will mean that my credit card will have sufficient fund again. clikbank then can charge $77 from my account.

unfortunately, i don’t know where to send my concerns. how can i stop clickbank from collecting money from my account? should i contact my bank and order them to stop clickbank from getting my money? is this a possible means?

i have no account in clickbank. when i paid for the trial promo of realwritingjobs i just paid by filling out the form online.

thank you.

]]> By: Jameshttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91728 James Thu, 14 Oct 2010 03:04:53 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91728 I thought it was just me. Clickbank has had about $70 of mine for a LONG time now. I just today saw they have charged me a total of $11 I think, just to hold on to it. You wrote this blog well, it was the first choice when I typed "why is clickbank stealing my money" and I got my answer. I read their policy and I figured they would bully me out of my money, but since I have stopped trying to sell electronic products, I will just do what you did and hopefully get my money back. Ridiculous! I thought it was just me. Clickbank has had about $70 of mine for a LONG time now. I just today saw they have charged me a total of $11 I think, just to hold on to it.

You wrote this blog well, it was the first choice when I typed “why is clickbank stealing my money” and I got my answer. I read their policy and I figured they would bully me out of my money, but since I have stopped trying to sell electronic products, I will just do what you did and hopefully get my money back.

Ridiculous!

]]> By: Brianhttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91635 Brian Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:44:49 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91635 Same thing happened to me and I feel it is down right theft. As one person pointed out not only did they steal from me they stole from the person that paid me the commission for selling their product. They were just holding it in an account for me. They earned their commission for me selling the product through them. To me it would be like paypal taking my money after a selling a product on ebay. They were just the medium that allowed the exchange to take place and they charged a fee already for that to happen. Now as my money sits there waiting for me to collect much like a bank account. I don't think there are any accounting records that need to take place cause basically everyone has already been paid. For instance product is $100 dollars. Affiliate pays me 50% for sale so he makes 50 and I make 50 and then CB charges fee for that transaction. So everyone makes money all around and thats a good thing. Now not only do they want their fee they want my money as well of my commission as well. Not only did they do that but they never notified me they were in fact taking any money. Electronic THEFT at its finest. I think a good follow up article would be to point people to other networks that offer the same thing. Another suggestion is for someone to just start another clickbank without the theft. Same thing happened to me and I feel it is down right theft. As one person pointed out not only did they steal from me they stole from the person that paid me the commission for selling their product. They were just holding it in an account for me. They earned their commission for me selling the product through them. To me it would be like paypal taking my money after a selling a product on ebay. They were just the medium that allowed the exchange to take place and they charged a fee already for that to happen. Now as my money sits there waiting for me to collect much like a bank account. I don’t think there are any accounting records that need to take place cause basically everyone has already been paid. For instance product is $100 dollars. Affiliate pays me 50% for sale so he makes 50 and I make 50 and then CB charges fee for that transaction. So everyone makes money all around and thats a good thing. Now not only do they want their fee they want my money as well of my commission as well. Not only did they do that but they never notified me they were in fact taking any money. Electronic THEFT at its finest. I think a good follow up article would be to point people to other networks that offer the same thing. Another suggestion is for someone to just start another clickbank without the theft.

]]> By: JKhttp://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91626 JK Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:13:40 +0000 http://blog.perfectspace.com/2008/02/08/clickbank-stop-stealing-my-money/#comment-91626 Here's my story...its pretty similar. I am a small affiliate with Clickbank. I bought a couple of products for myself as an affiliate with a view to using and promoting them. As a result I got 2 credits on my account totaling $184.10. 2 sales...its not as if I am abusing the system and the sellers told me I could use my aff link! However I have not been paid any $. I complained yesterday and they are now finally going to send me a check for $75.45 (my balance is $84.11 with 8.66 being held back for returns) which means that their dormancy fees come to $99.99 that’s 54.3%! I get they are in business and there are fees but that is ludicrous. Note: they NEVER contacted me at all. It was only when I logged in and started digging did I realize what was happening. What a great system that is for them. I emailed them and they just said we have policies and you agreed to them. Yet you'd think that there would be a notification of some kind about the charge. I complained to the FTC and the AG in my state but I worry that they will black list me. BTW they have changed the dormancy fee for +365 days to $50. Here’s my story…its pretty similar.
I am a small affiliate with Clickbank. I bought a couple of products for myself as an affiliate with a view to using and promoting them. As a result I got 2 credits on my account totaling $184.10. 2 sales…its not as if I am abusing the system and the sellers told me I could use my aff link!
However I have not been paid any $. I complained yesterday and they are now finally going to send me a check for $75.45 (my balance is $84.11 with 8.66 being held back for returns) which means that their dormancy fees come to $99.99 that’s 54.3%! I get they are in business and there are fees but that is ludicrous.

Note: they NEVER contacted me at all. It was only when I logged in and started digging did I realize what was happening. What a great system that is for them. I emailed them and they just said we have policies and you agreed to them. Yet you’d think that there would be a notification of some kind about the charge. I complained to the FTC and the AG in my state but I worry that they will black list me.

BTW they have changed the dormancy fee for +365 days to $50.

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